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Dayfish
09-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Jess and I finally decided to play Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise together after she patiently waited and waited for me to get it. We were both really excited to do some crazy co-op xbox live gardening together, and we both loved the first Viva Pinata. ONE WORD for the online co-op: HORRIBLE.
At first everything seemed innocent and harmless enough. I checked the settings to make sure there was no hidden "private garden" mode I wasn't aware of. I couldn't find any, so I just went to "host an xbox live game." I invited Jess to game, and we began to start gardening on my barely-touched pinata garden. Three minutes later, a random child shows up. Jess and I are a little bewildered, and she asks me, "How do you make the garden private? Let's make it private." I go into my settings in the game - it shows that I can give permissions to certain players, such as only allowing them to look or giving them restricted access, but there was no private game setting. It even gave me the option to boot someone. Okay, good to know, but I really only wanted to garden with Jess.
We tolerated the child for a bit, and that was okay. She wasn't being destructive, only a little girl. Then an adult shows up, with a thick British accent. He offers nicely to help with the garden and we let him for some time. He even helps me gain a 20 g achievement for evolving some of my pinatas. I was delighted. I wasn't delighted by all the millions of cut scenes I had to go through. Apparently this guy was a level 50 gardener, and your garden's difficulty automatically scales accordingly based on who the highest level gardener is. Hrm.
I could barely play, I just sat there listening to Jess chatter away with these people we didn't know. They ran around with shovels planting things, and I was completely lost. What was going on? I absolutely loved the first Viva Pinata, why couldn't I grasp this one?! So then something really bizarre happened. Jess starts going, "Dana, someone is breaking all your pinatas." I could barely realize what was happening because I was sitting through agonizing cut scene after cut scene (i.e. - "Oh look, you attracted a sour shellybean!" then "Oh no, a sour profitamole! Too bad!" F off, Leafos, seriously.).

I barely had enough time to act, before I realized the new British-speaking boy that was helping completely got the better of us and decided to smash up the garden! He destroyed almost every pinata. I fumbled with the controls clumsily trying to correct the situation, and eventually I found the "boot player from garden" option. I was furious.
Not because I was angry my pinatas were destroyed (I barely even knew them), but because this could have all been very easily prevented had there been some type of private gardening option. What gives? Did I miss something? If I did, it was very poorly explained. Afterwards Jess and I left the jerk some pretty lousy feed back and I even submitted a complaint, but the damage was done. We stuck around for a few minutes to continue gardening, but our experience had been soured. We just didn't feel like playing after that.

Ten minutes of online Viva Pinata co-op, spoiled by one person.

Why wouldn't they allow private gardening? And why on earth would the garden's difficulty not scale to the person who was hosting it? I shouldn't have to sit there helplessly through endless cut scenes while a jerk demolishes my garden.

Overall experience...obviously in the toilet. It truly was a trouble in paradise.


(I know this was long, and if you stuck with me for my rant...thanks!)

Mcmax3000
09-13-2008, 09:13 AM
I can't think of any game I own on the Xbox 360 that has Live play & does not have a private game feature.

I can't for the life of me figure out what Rare was thinking, especially in a family oriented game like Viva Pinata.

Shockman
09-13-2008, 10:24 AM
I can't think of any game I own on the Xbox 360 that has Live play & does not have a private game feature.

I can't for the life of me figure out what Rare was thinking, especially in a family oriented game like Viva Pinata.

Soul Caliber IV you can reserve private slots when you host. I do this when I host online. By making all slots private you lock out everyone except those you invite. You and friends can practice and help each other get better. There games out there with the ability make private games, or set up filters to only allow certain desirables , just not many.

As far as what Rare was thinking. They obviously weren't.

Jes-ka
09-13-2008, 11:07 AM
Ugh.

There's no consequence for being a total douche aside from getting kicked. If you start a shared garden, you cannot change permissions until someone is in your garden. And then there are no messages about. You only get the little message in the corner when someone enters your garden, so if you are busy you don't notice until you see some random shovel or watering can.

It was not fun to see random people drop in and just start doing stuff without asking. You definitely should not take your nice gardens online because it will just get destroyed! If not because of douchebags, but because little kids like "helping" and it isn't always that helpful.

Dayfish
09-13-2008, 11:15 AM
The only solution I can think of would be to make several saved garden files, and keep your good gardens at home. Don't take them online. Leave your precious pinatas safe, and then take an "online" garden online. Unfortunately I don't think children are going to think of this, and they're going to get rather upset when someone comes in and destroys all their named pinatas.

Ninja Raiden
09-18-2008, 12:41 PM
I just can't believe that kind of person would even lift Viva Pinata off a store's shelf...

Dayfish
09-18-2008, 07:41 PM
I just can't believe that kind of person would even lift Viva Pinata off a store's shelf...

Disturbing, isn't it?

dropK1CK_ninJA
09-19-2008, 10:14 AM
Well, there is a simple solution: Find enough friends to fill all those spots!

I kid! I kid!

I thought about getting this game but it did appear child-ish so I'm not sure what it is all about.

There *has* to be a private setting somewhere.

Jes-ka
09-19-2008, 10:44 AM
There *has* to be a private setting somewhere.

That's what Chris and I thought! I searched, there aren't many options period.

dropK1CK_ninJA
09-19-2008, 12:10 PM
I searched the NeoGaf official discussion thread on the game and nothing was mentioned. :(

Dayfish
09-19-2008, 04:21 PM
Yeah, I already told Jess that night on live that the only thing I can think of is to put two other people we know in those spots. Unfortunately we don't know anyone else with the game! I know you were just kidding, but I did actually think of that as a possible "quick fix." They really need to do something about this.

Mcmax3000
12-24-2008, 07:34 PM
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I just got this game a couple of days ago & was looking around... Now, this may have been recently patched in (since there was a title update available when I first put the disc in) but there is definitely (at least now) an option when setting up the game to choose the number of private slots for the room.

Jes-ka
12-24-2008, 07:44 PM
Finally!

Michael Ubaldi
12-24-2008, 07:54 PM
Shrewsbury, England — RARE LTD. (NSDT: RA) today announced that VIVA PINATA: TROUBLE IN PARADISE, the infectious and fun-for-the-whole-family game of cultivating a wild and colorful garden of pinatas, has been unbroken by a "patch" created by the Company's expert designers.

"We're very excited about this promising new phase of the game's development," said John Doe, VP of Marketing, Rare Ltd. "Multiplayer is all about fun, and so is not having your garden infiltrated and razed by 14-year-olds run amok, and VIVA PINATA: TROUBLE IN PARADISE is about both of those things and more."

VIVA PINATA: TROUBLE IN PARADISE can be found on the shelves of all major video game retailers, online and storefront, as well as those of gamers who would have played the game more had they not been harassed by youth detention parolees.

dropK1CK_ninJA
06-09-2009, 12:49 AM
So, I got this game on super fun discount at FYE. Anyone still play this on Live?

Jes-ka
06-09-2009, 01:05 AM
Haha, I would be happy to hop on if you plan on giving it a try. :P

Mcmax3000
06-09-2009, 07:28 AM
I'd also be willing to play it, though, be warned, I never really did 'get' it so I've never gotten very far.

Vaulter85
06-09-2009, 12:13 PM
This is one of those games I tried the demo, enjoyed it fairly enough to consider purchasing it but never did. It still is in the category of a possible purchase but there are so many other titles I'd rather get I just see myself pushing it deeper into my drawer of games where it will never see the light of day again. I assume the price has dropped significantly by now at least?

dropK1CK_ninJA
06-09-2009, 12:27 PM
$20 @ FYE until the 9th

Jes-ka
06-13-2009, 12:20 PM
If you are willing to play this a bit today, I plan to be on the xbox the majority of the day. Just send me a message!

Mcmax3000
06-13-2009, 12:27 PM
Outside of UFC 99 from 3-6p ET, I'll also be on XBL all day & can probably pull myself away from Big Surf Island to play as well.

Jes-ka
06-13-2009, 12:37 PM
Yeah, because it's not like it won't be there tomorrow. XP